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Archive for March 11th, 2007


Recently I had a conversation with a web developer who had never used HTML tables. They’d come into the business after the web standards movement had established itself and had never learnt to use tables. As a consequence they were using divs and CSS floats, etc. to lay out things that could (or even should) have been done with tables and running into the sort of issues you might expect when you use a generic tool to do a specialised job.

So I was wondering if there were other people like this out there, and if so would they benefit from a short tutorial explaining HTML tables from a CSS perspective? Such a tutorial might prove useful for others as well - it might provide an alternative way of approaching the tables-to-CSS transition that some people are still struggling with, and it might help explain just how CSS and tables interact. After all the table elements have their own layout model in the CSS specification and it’s not the easiest thing to grasp.

If I were to write such a tutorial I guess it would fall into two halves. The first half would look at the “simple” table model (table, tr, td and th elements) used for simple data tables and *gasp* layout tables and how their default behaviour compares with the standard CSS box model; whilst the second half would look at the “advanced” table model (caption, col/colgroup and thead/tbody/tfoot plus the accessibility enhancing attributes) and how to build complex data tables.

Anyone interested in seeing this?

Current Mood: (contemplative) contemplative
Current Music: Tired of Hanging Around - The Zutons

[info]linniekin tagged me to tell you my top 10 songs of all time. Here goes, complete with very naughty links for a few of them.

  1. And I Think Of You - E Penso A Te - Tanita Tikaram
    Slightly odd that from my favouritre singer songwriter I pick a song she didn’t write herself.
  2. Antmusic - Adam & The Ants
  3. Born Depressed - Drill Queen
    Playing this Thursday, I may try to be there depending on this and that.
  4. Ever Fallen In Love? - Buzzcocks
  5. Londinium - Catatonia
    Considering my current job, this is a slightly subversive choice, especially when played with Storm The Palace.
  6. Mis-Shapes - Pulp
  7. Misterioso - Thelonious Monk
  8. My Baby Loves A Bunch Of Authors - Moxy Früvous
  9. Seed Song - Cerys Matthews
    Yes, it’s twee but it’s my favourite song of last year.
  10. Tweeter and the Monkey Man - The Traveling Wilburys
    A top ten consisting entirely of Wilburys tracks was a serious possibility.

Post a comment with “top ten” or “top five” and I’ll give you a subject to base your list around.

Current Mood: (chipper) chipper

That big 'Everything Meme' that everyone's doing this week )

Some definite US-bias in the questions and clearly something is borked with the Socioeconmic section unless everyone taking the test is a lot richer than the the US average.

Current Mood: (cheerful) cheerful